Democratic Council Members Call for Baratta, Trawinski to Resign
Dems made the call for resignation after the Republican members of borough council voted to replace longtime auditor Steve Wielkotz.
Updated at 6:05 p.m. on Wednesday, May 2
Democratic council members Lisa Swain and Kurt Peluso called Wednesday for the resignation of Mayor Jeanne Baratta and Deputy Mayor Ed Trawinski, after both voted Tuesday to replace longtime borough auditor Steve Wielkotz.
Wielkotz, who has served as the borough's auditor for over a decade, has been at the center of a county-level controversy recently in which county executive Kathleen Donovan opposed his re-appointment as county auditor, calling him the "poster child for pay to play," and "a Democrat first and an auditor second" according to a report in the Bergen Record.
Swain and Peluso contend that Baratta and Trawinski's vote to replace Wielkotz as Fair Lawn's auditor was driven by their relationship with Donovan, whom they both report to in their county positions -- Baratta as Donovan's chief of staff, and Trawinski as county administrator.
“Ms. Baratta and Mr. Trawinski’s vote was without question a decision based solely on county politics and they can no longer claim that they are representing the best interests of Fair Lawn residents," Swain said in a statement. "There is no justified reason to replace the town auditor other than they were told to do so by their boss in Hackensack."
Swain called on Donovan to appear before the borough council to explain her role in influencing the votes of Baratta and Trawinski.
Peluso, who called Wielkotz a "great auditor," said in a statement that he was "appalled" and "disgusted" by the lack of integrity displayed by both Baratta and Trawinski.
"They have failed to live up to their responsibilities to serve honorably the people of Fair Lawn," he said. "Instead, county politics is spilling over into Fair Lawn and their vote is being influenced by the person who controls their six-figure taxpayer-funded salaries."
Peluso suggested that Donovan should give Baratta and Trawinski an ultimatum.
“Tell them to resign from the Council immediately or give up their county jobs," he said.
When reached for comment, Baratta said would not resign, adding that she had never supported Wielkotz as auditor during her six years on the council, and that her vote Tuesday night should not have come as a surprise.
"I have never voted for that auditing firm going back to when I was elected in 2005," she said, "and my first council re-org in 2006, when I was just a lowly art teacher working for St Anne’s School, I was extremely vocal in my 'no' vote on that auditing firm...Nothing has changed."
Baratta said Wielkotz' firm had been found to be in violation of the borough's pay-to-play ordinance, but that the prior Democrat-controlled council "didn't think it was a big deal," and allowed Wielkotz to continue as auditor.
Trawinski, who could not be reached for comment Wednesday, said prior to his vote Tuesday against Wielkotz' appointment that he had never supported the auditor in the past.
"I’ve never voted for Steve Wielkotz and I do not intend to support Steve Wielkotz this time," Trawinski said. "Steve came to us originally as a major pay-to-play contributor."
Baratta said the Democrats' call for her resign based on her vote demonstrates their lack of familiarity with being in the council minority.
"Mrs. Swain has never been in the minority, she's always been in the majority...All she knows is being able to appoint who she wants to appoint," said Baratta, who proceeded to compare Swain to a spoiled child. "Mrs. Swain is like a spoiled child and now she's having a tantrum."
Baratta said she opposed Wielkotz' re-appointment because she felt it was in the best interest of Fair Lawn, not because it had anything to do with appeasing her boss.
She also said it didn't concern her whether Wielkotz had contributed to Democrats or Republicans in the past.
"I don’t care who somebody gives money to," she said. "If a professional has to give money in order to get a job, they're not a professional I want to have working for me. I want their loyalty to be to the town and to the job that they’re doing, not to one political party or to another political party."
Lerch, Vinci & Higgins, a Fair Lawn-based firm, will replace Wielkotz as the borough's new auditor.
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Stuart Pace
5:18 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
let the fireworks begin.............
Stuart Pace
5:18 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
but not on July 4th.
truthhurts
5:35 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Donovan's henchmen are settling a political score. Here is the history from politicsnj.com from 8/23/10.
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http://www.politickernj.com/donovan-ends-audit-staredown-dem-connected-firm
EXCERPT:
Bergen County officials met today with County Clerk Kathe Donovan concerning what was originally classified as three years of audit-dodging by the GOP clerk.
Wielkotz, who also is the auditor in Passaic County, said, "This is the only county department in two counties that I've encountered this (non-participation) problem."
And even though he is a prolific party donor, Wielkotz denies politics.
"Not a factor whatsoever," he said.
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So now the walking/talking conflict of interest dynamic duo are going to get even for their boss. Fair Lawn cannot put up with this!
It time for John Cosgrove to show his mettle (if he has any) and join Peluso and Swain in demanding the resignation of these fools!
truthhurts
5:38 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
But in all fairness though, maybe one of them has a cousin who is an auditor who needs a job. It's a tough economy afterall.
dn
5:39 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Breaking news? Slow news day?
delgado
9:03 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
pretty classy when the Mayor or Fair Lawn, calls a fellow public servant -a spolied brat,,,, sort of like our Republican Governor telling a woman recently to go perform an inapporpriate act .... Baratta is really a class act- just like her boss......
truthhurts
5:47 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
This is exactly why I first posted here. Her is a reposting of my original comments on the gross conflict of interest we are being forced to bear:
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Here’s what New Jersey Policy Perspective says about what Trawinski and Baratta are doing.
"Dual elected office holding turns out to be just the tip of the iceberg. Serious conflicts of interest and obligation, as well as threats to government performance and trustworthiness, arise not only when one person serves as both state legislator and mayor, or mayor and county freeholder. Those problems arise as well from a practice that—our research shows—is more pervasive but, except when a high-profile scandal breaks out, less visible.....the mischief possible when one official holds both an elected and non-elected position. The concerns raised by holding two or more elected and non- elected positions are at least as serious as those raised when one person holds two elective offices simultaneously.”
truthhurts
5:48 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
New Jersey Policy Perspective continued:
“The practice of elected officials holding a non-elected public position can:
- Reduce accountability, by providing insulation from political accountability in the elective office and protection from serious or honest performance evaluation in their day jobs.
- Frustrate the checks and balances built into the system by the doctrine of separation of powers.
- Block the political ladder for emerging aspirants by concentrating political power.
- Raise questions about how tax dollars are spent.
- Degrade the tone of public life by raising the stakes of politics. When an elected official’s principal employment is in a public job, his or her entire livelihood may be at stake, not just in every election but in every interaction with the party leaders whose approval is needed to hold both the job and the office. Placating the party organization whose backing is needed to continue in office becomes a priority.
Combining elected and non-elected positions makes possible mutual back-scratching that can benefit the participants at the public’s expense.”
You can read more here:
www.njpp.org/assets/reports/democracy-media/3-rpt_enough.pdf
Mike Pena
6:05 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
We have so many other important issues.
Tommy P
6:08 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
BREAKING NEWS: Thomas Paine calls on Zak Koeske to resign! <jk>
Is this really a story?
Zak Koeske
6:28 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
@Thomas Paine I would say it's breaking news-worthy when sitting members of the governing body formally (via press release distributed to the media) call on other sitting members of the governing body to resign. But you're free to disagree.
Tommy P
9:43 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Kurt started the reorg session asking for them to resign. This is nothing new.
Chris Antonelli
12:56 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
This is a new verse to an old song.
Deleted because of harassment
7:11 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Wonder, how long did it take for Swain to explain to Peluso what an auditor does in Fair Lawn?
And how many ID's does the BCDO have to devote to posting comments? Wonder if someone is still paying the students at Bergen to do it since Ryan is gone...
If the auditor is violating pay-to-play (and, a look at the ELECT database should tell the answer to that one) or is even questionable, they need to go. An auditor that anyone has integrity questions about is not capable of doing their job on the simplest level. Just ask Benie Madoff's former accountants about that one if you have questions...
Ron Reese
8:10 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Yes the PARISITES can claim any good things they have done so let's attack the mayor
delgado
8:56 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Major PROPS to these 2 public officals for finally calling out, the Mayor/Bergen County Chief of Staff to Pensioner/County Exectuvie Donovan and the Deputy Mayor/BCIA Commissioner/Bergen County Adminstrator......... They should resign and must resign. The conflicts are bad for the Fair Lawn Taxpayers, from the plan to disband the Fair Lawn Police and bring in the Bergen County Police, to Trewinski having a say in the lawyers being selected at the County level, to their support for the American Dream $700MM bond scam which will drive Fair Lawn residents further into debt, to now even firing the Fair Lawn auditor AFTER double dipper Donovan filed her 900 lawsuit -this time against the auditor...Swain and Kurt are Fair Lawn Taxpayers heros,,,,, next step is a State Local Finance Board complaint and then look for the Mayor/Deputy Mayor to file expenscie lawsuits which Fair Lawn Taxpayers will pick up
Tommy P
9:42 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
(d)elgado have you ever criticized a Democrat for anything?
Chris Antonelli
9:24 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Delgado,
The same officials that waited almost 4 months to ask for budget cuts after almost 4 months of budget meetings? They've made everything political. If Swain and Peluso file complaints, they are the ones that will be driving the lawsuit merry-go-round. Peluso and Swain were political and combative from the first minute.
dn
9:33 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Democrats hate it when the other side operates in any way that is even a pale shadow of their unswerving cronyistic ways.
Go Figure
9:35 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
It's disgusting to see the democrats slinging mud like they are in an election cycle. Don't they care about the well being of our borough. This is such a non-story that the minions have latched onto. They create the non-story and then the minions do their posting. Grow up and help be a part of the solution to Fair Lawn's real problems.
Deleted because of harassment
9:39 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Anyone hear an echo in the room....?
...oh, sorry...that's only the partisan clone commenters talking amoungst themselves again, in the hope that Goebbels was right about repeating a lie enough times to the gulible to mistake the repetition for truth.
Tommy P
10:22 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
We are missing the Republican Club.....
Go Figure
10:11 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
I think it's time for the Fair Lawn taxpayers to call for the resignations of the Swain and Peluso team for wasting our time and money. Stop playing politics and get about the people's business -- that is what you were elected to do.
Daniel Dunay
10:33 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
In response to Delgado and truthhurts: Above, Councilman Peluso referred to Wielkotz as a "great auditor" and Councilwoman Swain saw "no justifiable reason to replace" him.
Mr. Wielkotz was the official auditor for the Bergen County Improvement Authority, saying in 2009 that "it is basically a sound agency." (see: http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news?ContentRecord_id=32b13804-0033-47b3-8773-c4ea823e1eee). Two years later, then Chairman of the BCIA, Ronald O'Malley was indicted for operating a mortgage fraud operation out of the BCIA (see: http://www.northjersey.com/news/083110_Former_BCIA_chariman_OMalley_indicted_in_mortgage_fraud_scheme.html). Additionally, other reported BCIA abuses include failure to monitor contaminated fill dumped at Overpeck Park (see: http://www.northjersey.com/news/112491794_Bond_agency_s_ex-chief_often_dined_on_taxpayers__dime_Had_meals_with_prominent_Democrats__consultants.html). All occurred during Wielkotz's tenure.
Mr. Wielkotz's firm has blatantly violated local pay-to-play ordinances in the past. Teaneck was forced to replace the firm as auditor in 2010. (See: http://www.northjersey.com/news/101410_Teaneck_replaces_auditor_to_meet_pay-to-play_law.html)
I'm disheartened that two councilmembers have chosen a time when we're facing a future $500K budget shortfall, low police morale, and increasing crime to launch baseless, partisan attacks. I think I speak for many people in town when I say that I'm tired of this.
Tommy P
11:20 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Mr Dunay, nice to see that you have joined the party. I know I knew that scoundrel's name, thank you for highlighting it and remind us all.
I wonder if Kurt Peluso is man enough to own his mistake and rat out who gave him the bad guidance. If it was Lisa Swain, I would hope he would lead Cosgrove and the two county Republicans in call for her resignation.
Double D
1:09 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
daniel- can you provide any examples of mr . wiekotz doing a poor job for fair lawn?
Stuart Pace
11:14 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Dan it was a pleasure to meet you this evening .
Daniel Dunay
11:48 pm on Wednesday, May 2, 2012
The pleasure was all mine, Stu! Nice seeing you.
Michael Agosta
2:43 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
"If a professional has to give money in order to get a job, they're not a professional I want to have working for me. I want their loyalty to be to the town and to the job that they’re doing, not to one political party or to another political party."
Hey Baratta, I guess you better cut loose a bunch of folks from their county jobs.
Bruce Knuckle
8:52 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
What a circus!!! Ex mayor pouty and the newbie entitlest must be staying under water too long at the Y. Granted, Poppycock and Snooki should resign basically because they too, are guilty for all that is bad in Fair Lawn. With the exception of Cosgrove, maybe resignations across the board are warranted....but dont get too comfy John, playing both sides of the fence got a former flipflopper almost recalled. TP, the collapse of a system is newsworthy, the residents need to see this over and over, maybe one day they will wake up.
Chris Antonelli
8:56 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
So, can someone here explain what a municipal auditor does?
MC61249
9:19 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Its weird how the news works. On the same page we talk about the selfless acts of volunteers at a house fire we have a story on the self rightous Politicians name calling each other in order to advance their agendas. Amazing!
Me
9:26 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Why doesn't Peluso and Swain find people to vote against letting the guy go instead of getting Baratta to resign? WAHH! What a bunch a babies.
Bruce Knuckle
9:40 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Here it is , we are in May, budgets are broken and this is how our council behaves. We know what to expect from Barratta and Trawinski, nothing new there, however, Peluso is starting to come across like Swains puppet. Anybody look to see if Swains lips are moving when Peluso is speaking?
Michael Roney
10:04 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
I suspect that they're both Barry's puppets. These orchestrated partisan attacks are extremely disappointing. Perhaps FL moving back to a non-partisan electoral system would improve the atmosphere and effectiveness of our local government. Local issues have very little to do with national platforms, and party "loyalty" just causes problems here. It's counterproductive.
Chris Antonelli
10:40 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Wouldn't work. People will still turn it into a partisan event. Non Partisan Joe will accuse Non Partisan Jim of raising taxes like a Democrat. Or make references on Jim being aligned with "insert Democrat name here".
Stuart Pace
10:33 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
been saying that all along Mike.
Zuzu's Petals
11:15 am on Thursday, May 3, 2012
A "lowly" Art Teacher. Really? That's not quite the perspective of the arts that I would hope for in my council persons. She should be ashamed.
Chris Antonelli
12:54 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
That was a play on how the Democrats said she didn't have the qualifications because she was "only" and art teacher.
okie
3:04 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
when did the dems say that chris?
LENNY
1:00 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
watching the meetings on tv many times in the past when their party was not in control the two council menbers working for the county passed on voteing on some issues because of their postion. now they seem not to have a problem voting. i am not for any party here just for the good of my town. this can not go on because the town is hurting with majors issues. just think of the major problems our country has faced and party lines WHERE put to rest to get the job done. this is the case now work together or a lot of people will vote to clean house and get people who care about FAIR LAWN.
Tommy P
1:45 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
This exactly what one should expect when we elect leaders based on promises of spending. Instead of justifying spending, they jockey to position themselves to direct the increases. We need to stop allowing them to bribe us with our own money!
Chris Antonelli
2:16 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Huh?
Stuart Pace
2:04 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Occupy Parmelee Ave!
Newkidontheblock
5:33 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
This town has become such a place not to live in due these political situations. We don't need that political bull poo where you go into a place and the politician needs to shake your hand to say that they are the better person. If I am not mistaken wasn't it that one of our past mayor David Ganz was holding a position in town and was also a county free holder. Why don't we honestly take every one out of office and start from scratch because that is the only way to clean house.
delgado
9:20 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Ganz didnt run on reforming "double dipping",,, these Bergen Republicans DID, thats the BIG difference, in fact soon to be ex-Freeholder Hermansan SWORE to end it and now hes up on this ballot this November.
Walter Weglein
5:37 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
Why is it fine with everbody that Barrata and Trawinski should represent the people of FL while holding down county jobs for which taxpayers must fork over some $350,000 year and they do not even make a pretense in showing which master they truly serve...at least Ganz didn't take a big chunk of our money when he was both FL mayor and Freeholder ...Have they not the slightest embarrassment ?
Newkidontheblock
5:45 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
It doesn't matter about the money, the same principle is in play here where both political parties are double dipping.
Chris Antonelli
10:06 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
Describe double dipping please.
spectator
8:29 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
THE OFFICIAL THEME: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
delgado
9:18 pm on Thursday, May 3, 2012
A complaint must be filed with the Local Finance Board regarding these two dual government held position politicans. The conflicts are terrible, especially with a Republican Governor who is opposed to it and wants it banned and even called it "wrong". The complaint will vett out the true intentions of these two. They should resign, if not, with the high taxes, its time that a recall initiative start among them. Enough is enough, especially with the expected tax increase because of the American Dream Xanadu
Chris Antonelli
10:08 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
What laws are being broken?
Tommy P
12:01 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Who sits on the "Local Finance Board"?
Conflict
11:23 am on Friday, May 4, 2012
Im a republican and it still puzzles why anyone would think it is for someone to work for the bergen county executive and be able to be the mayor of fair lawn. This is the definition of a conflict of interest.
im trying to think of an analogy to compare to this:
for anyone who watches the NFL do you think it would be ok/fair for the assistant to the commisioner to also be General Manager for a team?
i was appalled when ganz held dual posistions (as i believe many republicans were) and find it very hypocritical and embarassing that our republicans are now doing the same thing.
Chris Antonelli
1:15 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Bud Selig owns the Brewers. So........
Conflict
2:28 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
"Upon his assumption of the commissioner's role, Selig transferred his ownership interest in the Brewers to his daughter Wendy Selig-Prieb in order to remove any technical conflicts of interest, though it was widely presumed he maintained some hand in team operations. Although the team has been sold to Los Angeles investor Mark Attanasio, questions remain regarding Selig's past involvement. Selig's defenders point to the poor management of the team after Selig-Prieb took control as proof that Selig was not working behind the scenes."
haha thanks for proving my point chris... anymore genius examples of how this is not a conflict of interest
BellairBerdan
12:45 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Jan 6 2012 Patch: "Christie said he would urge lawmakers to ban anyone with a full-time government job from also holding a salaried elected position." While Fair Lawn councilmembers are paid a $2,500 salary, both Baratta and Trawinski have publicly stated that they do not accept the money
The position is salaried. Period. They are trying to force the others to not accept a salary to bolster their position. It is clearly a reach around of the Governor's wishes just as they are doing with the addition of fees to skirt the tax cap issue.
If not for the Democrats being insistent at looking at other ways to balance the budget we would see increases all over.
The unprofessional words of the Mayor amazes me. She tells one Councilperson she doesn't respect his opinion and calls the other a spoiled child having a tantrum. Is that how we get people to work together now?
Other than being someone Baratta and Trawinksi's boss doesn't like I haven't seen any reasons listed of what Weilkotz did to Fair Lawn. Dunay's articles are nice fodder of things other people are accused of, but is he guilty by association?
Chris Antonelli
1:21 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Apparently he's guilty of violating our P2P ordinance. And, it appears that the last majority knew and didn't care.
BellairBerdan
3:03 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Sooooo, after 10 years of employment, that's the reason they chose. Makes one think that the thing he is guilty of is that he just isn't contributing to the people in power now.
Daniel Dunay
4:12 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Bellair, it seems to me like the more logical explanation is that the prior Democratic majority chose to overlook Mr. Wielkotz's prior illegal contribution to the BCDO (and his firm's similar illegal activity in Teaneck) in part because of the $80K+ he had given to Democratic causes over the last decade, but I'll let people reach their own conclusions.
It is possible that you know better than I an auditor's responsibilities, though, so perhaps you have additional reasons to support your version of the story.
BellairBerdan
4:55 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Daniel, am I correct in your wording that he nor his firm made contributions directly to anyone in Fair Lawn? You were specific about the county and Teaneck.
Stuart Pace
3:23 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
strictly as a taxpayer, I have no problem changing auditors on a regular basis. In fact,that should be an ordinance. They are auditing, and if they get complacent, things could go awry. No vendor should be selected in perpetuity.
BellairBerdan
4:20 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Of course if they knew they were being constantly changed it wouldn't do much to encourage doing a good job. I don't think the question is that they did it, the question is why.
Daniel Dunay
4:35 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Bellair, I believe thre is a relevant guideline on this relating to public companies from the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002: (j) Audit Partner Rotation.--It shall be unlawful for a registered public accounting firm to provide audit services to an issuer if the lead (or coordinating) audit partner (having primary responsibility for the audit), or the audit partner responsible for reviewing the audit, has performed audit services for that issuer in each of the 5 previous fiscal years of that issuer."
I suppose not everyone holds themselves to as high a standard, however.
BellairBerdan
5:11 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Dan, I am reading that as an auditor within a firm performing the work for a client needs to be rotated not the company itself.
Stuart Pace
5:29 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
I'm saying change the firm every few years, not the employee.
Go Figure
3:25 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
BB: and what would the governor say about PART-TIME POLITICIANS accepting FULL TIME MEDICAL BENEFITS from a town. Should not be happening. Tell them to give up those expensive medical benefits and then they can complain about other council people.
Tommy P
3:51 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Democrats always have 2 sets of standards, a high standard that Republicans are held to and an almost non-existent one they are held to.
After all, how can Peluso be for "working" families and then buy a short sale?
Tp=Patch Clown
4:24 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
TP- do you know what a short sale is?
A short sale is often used as an alternative to foreclosure because it mitigates additional fees and costs to both the creditor and borrower.
i dont agree with peluso politicly but what does him purchasing a short sale have to do with anything. if mr peluso didnt purchase the house would the previous family magically came up with the money to pay back the loans? how can a young family like mr peluso afford a home in FL if it wasnt a short sale or at a ridicuolisly reduced price?
people like you, bellair berdan, and delgado always bring up personal things about our local politicians and it's pretty creepy and irrelavent.
please though explain to me what is wrong with buying a short sale because i am really curious?
BellairBerdan
4:30 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Go Figure I think there is something to be said about encouraging public service. If you take the Pohlman approach, that if you can't afford do do it for nothing you shouldn't do it at all, leads toward an oligarchy. That little perk for the time spent might make an every day Joe get involved in public service instead of leaving it only for the wealthy, Your concern about the cost of health care is more a reason to work towards a national health plan. That fight about medical benefits will never have to happen. But I can't read the Governor's mind. You can ask him.
TP, why don't you give one or your whackadoodle explanations how a man buying a short sale is being against working families?
Tommy P
6:00 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
I am completely okay with the buyer in a short sale. I also understand why a bank would agree to do it, it often makes financial sense. There is a perception that the buyer is taking advantage of the situation.
Since Democrats tend to promote class warfare, I just thought it was ironic an elected Democrat is the guy who made the offer the bank accepted which contributed to Tory Coucci not graduating from FLHS.
As for socialized medicine, it simply does not make sense.
Bruce Knuckle
8:32 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
TP, it seems that the short sale and the dismissal of a student gives a glimpse into the workings of the man. Funny how we dont see any other students getting removed from the school system, There are so many more being "overlooked." Is he for whats right for the community or whats right for him? I'm not seeing the benefit to the community that I thought he would present..
Tommy P
9:33 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
@Bruce it does not speak to his character, but politically it dosnt look good. And that's what this article is about. Neither of the "double dippers" had those county jobs when they were elected, by voting for Cosgrove, people voted for them to be in the majority which is really the only way the conflict matters as a practical matter. It's an open secret they are not running for reelection, but given party politics and the uncertainty of their replacements, they are not going anywhere voluntarily.
As for your serious allegation of theft of service, name names. Either here or with the board of Ed. The council should pass an ordinance which places a heavy fine on the theft along with a bounty payment to the first person to present evidence of the theft.
Tp+Patch Clown
1:50 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
"I am completely okay with the buyer in a short sale. I also understand why a bank would agree to do it, it often makes financial sense. There is a perception that the buyer is taking advantage of the situation.
Since Democrats tend to promote class warfare, I just thought it was ironic an elected Democrat is the guy who made the offer the bank accepted which contributed to Tory Coucci not graduating from FLHS."
so TP let me get this straight, you made that statement because "There is a perception that the buyer is taking advantage of the situation." even though you are "completely okay with the buyer in a short sale"
after reading your response you are clearly dumber than i originally thought. get a life... bruce your just as dumb, peluso didnt "kick" them out, he bought a house for the asking price
Tp+Patch Clown
1:54 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
"TP, it seems that the short sale and the dismissal of a student gives a glimpse into the workings of the man. Funny how we dont see any other students getting removed from the school system, There are so many more being "overlooked." Is he for whats right for the community or whats right for him?"
Bruce Schmuckle- last time i checked peluso is not on the BOE and has no control or say in which students get kicked out or overlooked. your comment speaks for your intelligence
okie
3:03 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
@ Bruce-
"TP, it seems that the short sale and the dismissal of a student gives a glimpse into the workings of the man"
are you claiming mr peluso had anything to do with the declaring the house short sale (even though only the lender can) or the removal of Tory Coucci (which only the BOE can decide).
those are some strong accusations and i hope you can provide us with some facts to back that up. anyone who knows anything about real estate or the school system can tell you have no clue what you are talking about..
please entertain me though and support your claim
Bruce Knuckle
11:36 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
@Okie, Short sales are a part of life, and if you ever read my posts on this issue, I have always put the burden on the parents for what happened, however, Peluso is an opportunist. No accusation was made, just an opinion. Apparently, in your world , no one can have a different one than you. His willingness to layoff people without any care shows that he is uncaring. That is an easy quick fix. If he was any good, or if any of them were for that matter, they would work to fix the budget issues instead of ripping each other apart. Trawinski, Barratta, and Swain were there creating this mess, now they want to blame each other. One's an ego maniac, ones a sore loser, and one should feel lucky she ever made it to mayor. Stop with the party line B.S. and see the whole picture. They stink as a governing body.
@TP, The BOE knows the names, however, without political pressure, it goes no where.
Tommy P
6:03 pm on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Bruce you are making a very serious accusation, do you have any details to share?
As for Kurt being an opportunist, I don't care what you call someone who works to eliminate waste fraud or abuse. He is absolutely right about the over staffed rec deptartment. We need to encourage our council to do to the right thing by the almost 12,000 who pay the bills. While we need to respect our employees, they are not entitled to those jobs regardless of who they are related to or know.
Again Bruce, anything you can share I will ensure gets followed up on. Specifics please.
Bruce Knuckle
7:29 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
TommyP, The BOE has it and is well aware of the issue. If you are that linked in, go to the River Rd bus stop by the school at 3pm. You'll see.I believe the easy way out will be after this school year. Kids can finish the semester before being booted. The BOE needs to do a recheck before next school year. My point is that as an opportunist, Peluso is not looking for the difficult solutions, but rather the quick fixes. The REC is a no brainer, has been for years. I get confused when I see that but not a PD restructure or when I see approval for 2 new fire trucks . And while we are at it, shouldn't Cosgove recuse himself on this vote since he was a fire chief? I question the reasoning behind all of their decision, since the multitude do not make sense. Go ask the auditor what he thinks.
Go Figure
9:16 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
BB: Your answer sounds great...if you are one of those taking those benefits. The bottom line is that no one should take the job to get health benefits when it is a volunteer, and at best a part-time position. That is not a SMALL perk if it costs $17-20,000 a year. I say give them a little more stipend and save the taxpayers some money. Mr. Peluso is trumpeting saving money by taking away some of the employees' jobs while he is taking a rather generous benefit for himself. Very hypocritical if you ask me.
Tommy P
9:38 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
It's would take the Republicans a couple of weeks to fix it, simply pass an ordinance classifying them as part timers without benefits, maybe they should.
BellairBerdan
10:42 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
Go Figure, I question that $20K number. I buy my own health insurance as an individual and it is expensive, but not that much. Normally a group, like the town, can buy it much cheaper. But not everyone gets health insurance benefits from their full time employer (assuming they have one). If you are in the Pohlman camp that you shouldn't be in public service if you find it a financial burden, you're entitled to that opinion. I just don't agree. BTW, Peluso was asking about the elimination of one higher level position.
Tp+Patch Clown
2:03 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
"It's would take the Republicans a couple of weeks to fix it,"- theyve been the majority for much more than a couple weeks and all they have done is add service fees for the residents (hidden taxes that christie said he would put an end to)
Tommy P
7:32 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Let's pretend the "clown" is new. If I was not the first on this site to criticize the Metzler tax increases aka fee increases, I was second. I have been beating on that drum for months.
Go Figure
10:52 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
BB: First of all I am not in anyone's camp, just Fair Lawn. The figure that I provided came from the articles and discussion I have seen over the last 2 years in council meetings on FL TV. It is too much when you are asking everyone else to sacrifice and saying how you are going to help the taxpayer. And finally Mr. Peluso wanted to cut over 1 million dollars, which meant the loss of more than one position. Did you watch the discussion or read the articles? It's time to start cutting unnecessary part time benefits.
Brent Pohlman
11:06 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
BB I think our elected officials should be volunteers. Councilwoman swain stated in a public meeting that it cost her money to sit on the council, but should the people of fair lawn be forced to compensate her to be a council person. The simple answer to that is no. That is part of the sacrifice of public service.. The idea of part time elected officials collecting benefits is all the more absurd when those same officials are looking cut services to the citizens of fair lawn. How much more hypocritical can you be then wanting to fire borough employees while keeping ones own benefits. That is just wrong and I think even you know that.
BellairBerdan
11:36 pm on Friday, May 4, 2012
What about going with the Governor's wishes before we do yours, Brent?
okie
2:22 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
BP- does Cosgrove take the benefits?
Brent Pohlman
9:25 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Okie, my understanding is that none of the republican councilmembers take the benefits or stipend.
Go Figure
8:37 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
BB: How about we worry about Fair Lawn first!
truthhurts
8:51 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
It doesn't matter whether or not you feel that the stipend and/or health benefits should be in place, or whether or not a sitting councilmember should or should not take them. BP and the other council hopefuls posting here can run for office on the platform that they will be volunteers by choice, and they want to change the system, but they sound very immature trying to force their opinions on everyone else right now (obviously the campaign has begun).
Cosgrove has every right to take them, as do the rest of them. Why? Because they were elected by a majority of voters to that office, and that stipend and those benefits have been part of the job for a long time. It's not as if they just voted in these benefits and a salary for themselves. No one voted for these people assuming that they would waive the stipend or benefits.
truthhurts
9:05 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
On the contrary, Trawinski and Baratta ran with the slogan Fair Lawn First. This is of course comical at this point. No one voted for them because they wanted them to take a political patronage job that would make them beholden to others, creating huge conflicts of interest and putting Fair Lawn conspicuously second behind their political obligations. If they had these positions before the election they would have been slaughtered at the polls. This is of course why they are not running for reelection. They are willing to give up the small FL stipend and benefits (like they're some kind of hero for doing so) for their 6 figure salaries, cadilac health benefits and huge pensions paid in full by Bergen County taxpayers...taxpayers who never voted for them to have those crony positions, bloated salaries, or obscene pensions and benefits.
So on their way out the door to leave Fair Lawn Last and Forgotten, these double dippers will settle all of their boss's political scores, no matter how many lawsuits it brings or how it effects Fair Lawn in the end. They will likely move out of town as they ride off into retirement on the backs of Bergen County taxpayers, who would vote to strip them of those benefits in a heartbeat if they ever had the oportunity.
This is why they should be forced to step down now. Recall sounds like a great idea!
Bruce Knuckle
11:40 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
@truthhurts, I will be glad when the double dippers are gone. You seem to forget some truth when it comes to Swain. She was in the majority when all of these lawsuits were coming in. She has done nothing, but help layoff hard working folks, but kept inept leaders such as Chief Rose and Side show Joe. Truth hurts more when the whole story is told. The recall should be for all of them.
Brent Pohlman
9:39 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
TH, to use your own handle...the truth hurts; Can you explain how the mayor is settling a political score for the CE by not reappointing the auditor when the mayor has never voted for this auditor, even going back to before she was employed by the county.
truthhurts
4:57 pm on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Sure, this is from the Bergen Record:
"He (Wielkotz) is the subject of a political and legal fight due to his appointment in March as county auditor by a Republican-controlled Board of Freeholders. He was appointed over the objections of Trawinski, who had said Donovan would not sign the contract.
Donovan has contended that the freeholders overstepped their authority, while the freeholders assert that the board has appointed auditors since county voters approved the county executive form of government in 1986. Both sides must appear in court on May 25 to argue the case."
Republican infighting. Has nothing to do with the dems. Political score being settled by Thing One and Thing Two on Donovan's behalf...seems pretty clear (and par for her course).
Stuart Pace
10:23 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
The sad thing is, while the Dems are calling for J & E to resign, they haven't done anything as promised in their campaigns. Everyone get to work and do what you promised. THAT is the supposed reason you were elected. STFU and fix this town.
Tommy P
10:47 am on Saturday, May 5, 2012
Its more entertaining to watch the half truths and drama, too bad they are wasting so much of our money doing it. The opportunity cost of not addressing the overspending at Borough Hall can never be recovered. We have a spending problems, the hole is big and they won't stop digging.
Tony Sina
7:05 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
I think the Dems are now demanding Lev Stanik of LaFurniture Corp. be hired to act as borough auditor.