Should Council Members Take a Salary and Health Benefits From the Borough? [Poll]
Three current council members receive either a stipend, benefits or both from the borough.
To accept or not to accept a salary and health benefits? That is the question council members must answer after they're elected to serve Fair Lawn.
Elected officials can choose to receive an annual $2,500 salary for their public service, in addition to borough-provided medical, dental and prescription drug benefits.
Their decision need not be simply "yes" or "no." Council members are free to mix and match what they receive -- both salary and benefits, just benefits, just salary, etc.
In 2012, a council member who receives both the salary and full health care package does so at a cost to the borough of more than $30,000.
At the council's budget wrap on April 24, amid discussion of employee layoffs, Mayor Jeanne Baratta made a proposal that council members voluntarily decline their salary and benefits.
"We all talk about how we want to help the taxpayers and every little bit helps," she said. "I think everybody needs to make sacrifices, so I’d like to put on the table that council members no longer receive salaries and benefits."
Deputy Mayor Trawinski seconded Baratta's proposal, calling it "important symbolism," even if it didn't reap large economic savings for the borough.
"Within the context of this budget it will yield little relief for the taxpayers," he said, "but nevertheless I believe it’s an important message that we send and I’m willing to support that."
Deputy Mayor Cosgrove and councilman Kurt Peluso also supported Baratta's voluntary call to refuse the borough-provided salary and benefits.
Councilwoman Lisa Swain abstained, saying she'd be willing to forego the salary but needed to discuss with her husband the possibility of finding another insurance provider.
"It costs us money to sit in this seat," said Swain, who is not eligible to receive benefits through her part-time employer. "I have to think about it, so I'm not going to vote on that right now."
Unable to achieve unanimity, the proposal was dropped and has not resurfaced at subsequent meetings.
Asked Tuesday, Swain said had discussed the issue with her husband but had not yet made a decision because doing so would require looking for benefits elsewhere.
This year, the borough is spending $68,900 to provide health benefits and salaries to council members.
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A breakdown of the cost in salary and benefts for current borough council members since 2006:
|
Council Member |
2006 |
2007 |
2008 |
2009 |
|
Jeanne Baratta |
$0 |
$0 |
$0 |
$0 |
|
John Cosgrove |
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
|
Kurt Peluso |
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
|
Lisa Swain |
N/A |
N/A |
$22,171.77 |
$23,335.26 |
|
Ed Trawinski |
$6,975.72 |
$6,775.44 |
$9,970.41 |
$10,233.42 |
| Council Member | 2010 | 2011 | 2012(stipend projected) | Total |
| Jeanne Baratta | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 |
| John Cosgrove | N/A | N/A | $0 | $0 |
| Kurt Peluso | N/A | N/A | $27,851.16 |
$27,851.16 |
| Lisa Swain | $28,055.54 | $28,228.74 | $30,351.06 | $132,142.37 |
| Ed Trawinski | $11,253.74 | $7,538.16 | $10,697.70 | $63,444.59 |
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James Johnson
6:32 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
I don't think they should take the benefits but the chart is really unfair and inaccurate. To be accurate and fair, it should only have the years that each member was on the council and the rest with an X through them. Also, to display accurately for people to get an informed picture, it should include the prior councils as well. I'm surprised that author would show such an inaccurate and unfair chart. It also shows how any numbers can be skewed to prove any point. Surprisingly, not good reporting.
Zak Koeske
7:19 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@James - The chart displayed does only show the years that each member was on the council (since 2006) with the other years with an N/A in them. And I'm not sure what you mean by the numbers being skewed to prove a point. The numbers are displayed accurately, based on the data provided me by the borough.
Tommy P
8:01 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Good work Zak, your article is factual and fair representation of the money our town spends on our council, some people just don't like the facts when it doesn't fit their narrative.
Ed Rooney
6:50 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Pretty easy for Jeannie to say as she receives public benefits from Fair Lawn taxpayers via the county. What a hypocrit. The fact is that if there are no stipends or benefits for leaders (in Trenton or Fair Lawn) the government on any level could no longer be made up of any person qualified to serve- it will be made up of the wealthy class only. The basis of our country is to have have reps in the government who represent all our people, most of whom are not wealthy.
Sheryl Cashin
10:10 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
It's easy for her to say because Mayor Baratta NEVER accepted the stipend or benefits even before her county job.
Michael Agosta
7:43 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Baratta and Trawinski earn about $300k plus medical at their county jobs. Even though they decline the town benefits, we are still paying a heafty amount for them.
Politics = talking out of both sides of your mouth
BellairBerdan
8:28 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
It appears from the chart that Mr Trawinksi does accept benefits, even though we've been told all along by the FLRC that he does not.
Zak Koeske
8:54 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@BellairBerdan - Trawinski receives prescription drug benefits (but not medical or dental) from the borough. He acknowledged it publicly when the issue was raised at the meeting.
Chris Antonelli
9:12 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Mike/All Democrats,
Is it not OK to accept benefits from your job? Should we eliminate all benefits from all county and state workers? County workers have children. Should we deny them healthcare as well? And keep in mind, Baratta has only been working for the county for a short period of time. She has never received benefits.
Tommy P
9:48 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Chris, we don't ask our employers to select our car insurance, why should our tax code encourage them to select our health care insurance? There is also an issue of discrimination against the unmarried without kids. Why should your pay rate change based on marital status or if you have kids. We should raise pay across the board and make employees pay 100% of their benefits. The state should create a market for the private sector to compete until the Feds fix the tax code.
Daniel Dunay
10:19 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Bellair, I apologize to the extent that my past comments were misleading or inaccurate on that point. It was not purposeful. I do believe that Deputy Mayor Trawinski indicated an intent not to continue taking the prescription drug benefit at the meeting when this was discusssed.
Chris Antonelli
10:37 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Tommy Boy,
How is there discrimination in pay amongst people with or without kids? Do you have any factual stats to back that up? It is illegal to ask that in an interview or on a job application. The only time it is asked is on an benefit form, but you have already been hired and negotiated salary. And employers select HC because they determine what they can afford and what is the best they can offer their employees without breaking the bank. As for state jobs, unions control that in bargaining.
You seriously run a business? How do you not know this?
Chris Antonelli
10:41 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
And how do you bring pay into this? You want all county and state workers to receive no benefits.
dn
10:42 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
So basically, no matter what some people do, they're always wrong. Okay, got it.
Tommy P
10:49 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Chris, the discrimination in a union setting is obvious. If you have a pay scale that's agreed to and the benefits vary, two people in the same position in the scale are paid differently. Lets use the BoE as an example, a 30 year old mother of two whose husband doesn't have health insurance gets a greater financial benefit than an unmarried male of the same age and background.
I am very well aware of the laws. All of my employees have 100% deductibles, and are paid well. Its none of an employers business which company you select for car insurance, yet when it comes to health care, why is that business owners choose?
I always find it entertaining when Republicans (maybe a RINO?) support failed remnant FDR policies.
BellairBerdan
11:16 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@ Zak, my point is we were told over and over neither one took benefits. An example is this quote from Dunay on Jan 18, 2012 "Repasting a prior comment I made, "Mayor Baratta and Deputy Mayor Trawinski receive no compensation or benefits, including accrued pension, for their work on the council."
Chris Antonelli
11:38 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Wow.... An employer chooses because the employer offers it as a benefit. If the employer didn't offer it, then you would go out and seek your own. Employers offer benefits and subsidize a large portion of the cost in most cases. It needs to be cost effective and at the same time, be something worth paying for. This is not a complicated thing to understand. If an employer offered you 50K per year, and you wanted 75K, you would seek out someone willing to pay you what you want, no? So, if benefits are a sticking point with you, go work for a company that has what you want.
And I don't understand your example. Single people with no kids pay far less than a family rate. Explain who benefits here and why? And how it's even relevant to compare the two?
Chris Antonelli
11:49 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
BB,
And Mr. Dunay has admitted his mistake. How many times have you posted erroneous information on this site, only to stop commenting on a subject when you were proven wrong? My guess would be almost always.
Tony Sina
11:20 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Judging by the lack of response, I'd say Chris's point about BB has been proven. Kudos, Mr. Antonelli.
(cue the comment about bullies and/or mouthpieces in 3...2...1...)
BellairBerdan
1:22 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
Chris and Tony, just as an FYI Pohlman of the FLRC continued to peddle the "misinformation" on Patch 2 weeks after this meeting where the news became public that Trawinski does indeed accept benefits from Fair Lawn.
Tony Sina
4:06 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
BB - Can you point me to the relevant link/article/quote? I know I didn't broach the subject, but I am curious as to a) when this info was made public and b) when in your opinion the FLRC made these comments on Patch presumably knowing this all along.
Tommy P
7:59 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@Zak, I would be interested to see what the stipends are specifically for. Are they for being a blonde or do require "work", a sense of how much additional time (if any) would be appreciated.
As a matter of scale, in Lisa's 5 years, she totaled less then a clerk, and less than a supervisor at DPW, and less Metzler, each make in just salary in one year. While those three examples are not the only one, this story makes for good fodder.
Zak also just made the case that Trawinski IS a double dipper, I look forward to hearing the poppycock excuse.
Zak Koeske
8:19 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@Thomas - The $2,500 annual stipend is just an amount that all council members may receive for serving. The borough clerk said it's always been $2,500 for as long as she's been in Fair Lawn, or about 20 years.
Chris Antonelli
9:33 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Zak,
You should go back and see how the Democrats of the Ganz era took us for everything. Pales in comparison to what Trawinski takes. Caan, Ganz, Wienstein, McCarthy, Etler......... Caan had a county job. Weinstein was part of his family's business, Ganz and McCarthy were lawyers.
Ron Reese
8:03 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
why is this an issue? when liberals control Fair Lawn this would never even be mentions. Is there nothing the liberals have done that can be reported on I mean other than pay it forward witch means not paying for it. Or if your a liberal taxing the yet to be born for our incompetence!
Bruce Knuckle
8:22 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Seams like Swain asks her husband for a lot of answers. Maybe he is the one causing the chaos in Fair Lawn.....don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain.....
Michael Agosta
9:02 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Zac
Good job on this article.
I can use this information for the Fair Lawn Republican Organization's mailing.
2013 is around the corner.
Mei Won Sum
9:15 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
you can run with your friend sergey who poses as someone else.
Michael Agosta
9:40 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Negative. Sergey is part of the FLRC.
Additionally, I have no interest in running. I am communicating with Republicans in Fair Lawn that are fed up with Baratta/Trawinski.
Mei Won Sum
11:54 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
you really thing you're going to win in a primary against a baratta/trawinski backed candidate? heres a little clue, forget what you read on patch, they are a lot more popular than these posts would lead you to believe. you won't even get the line. you may not even find candidates to run.
Michael Agosta
10:31 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Is this Rich Baratta?
Tony Sina
11:40 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
FLRC and FLRO both got two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions, but FLRC's buns have sesame seeds. FLRO buns have no seeds. Please note that in the mailing.
MC61249
9:11 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
They deserve the $2,500 fo their time and work but who gets benefits for a part time job? I agree with Bruce who did we elect Swain or her husband?
Zak Koeske
9:19 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@MC61249 - Councilwoman Swain needed to consult with her husband because she's not eligible to receive benefits through her job. If she were to stop receiving benefits from Fair Lawn, it would be up to her husband to get them through his work, so he'd have to look into the options available to him.
Mei Won Sum
9:21 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
swain and her entertainment lawyer husband are struggling. do you know the cost of the taxes and upkeep on that house and those benz's?
CutterPride
10:07 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
This article does NOTHING but fuel a partisan fire that everyone agrees should be put out. I fear the next slow news day when Patch posts more garbage like a "Mets or Yankees" poll or "What's your favorite color?" poll. These are all issues that people have made up their minds on how they feel (either way is fine), and no Patch arguing or commenting will change anyone's mind. Just fueling a fire no one wants...
Mei Won Sum
10:39 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
hey, these jagoffs break up my day here. fire is fun.
Tommy P
10:40 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Sunshine is the best disinfectant. We should air out city hall, it may get rid of the stench of overspending and waste. It may flame partisanship, but if it helps prevent the abuses which have occurred in the past. Bring it.
Zak Koeske
10:57 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
@CutterPride - I respectfully disagree. The prospect of voluntarily declining the stipend and benefits in the future received bipartisan support when the mayor raised it publicly.
Also, I would say that the more than $150,000 cost to the borough per year if all five members were to receive both salary and benefits is not insubstantial. That in itself has news value, in my opinion.
Chris Antonelli
11:44 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Tommy,
It must be nice to offer up all these great Libertarian ideas using cowardice as you do by hiding behind anonymity. Do Baratta, Trawinski and Cosgrove really scare you that much? Do you really think people in this town have time to exact retribution upon you? Although, you have dragged every leader and department head in this town through the mud, so maybe it would be best to stay hidden. You may want to school yourself on Municipal government a little.
Tommy P
4:40 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Chris, not sure why I get under your skin so much. I am always willing to read, if you have something constructive, please share. I engage with people on this website and others in part to learn and in part to share.
I haven't accuse any of the five council members or any department head of retribution, and I have no specific reason to believe any of them would, but why chance it? When you highlight government waste, it tends to bother those who benefit from it. Does the make me a coward maybe, does it make it wrong, don't think so.
KS
10:48 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
The article's numbers are meaningless as they do not show the full picture of how these people earn their living. The issue the article inadvertently brings out is the ever growing issue of health insurance costs especially for the self employed as demonstrated by Lisa Swain's hesitation.
The Most Interesting Man in the World
11:54 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Look at the cost of benefits here, WOW, the borough gives themselves quite lavish, no expense spared at the taxpayer's expense health insurance. I pay 100% of my own for an entire family for about $10,500/yr with BCBS of NJ. Imagine that this kind of benefit is given to every employee in addition to the politicians who accept it on top of their salary.
NoPrideJustGarbage
11:57 am on Thursday, May 10, 2012
CutterPride always anxious to display your exemplary level of stipidity
CutterPride
2:34 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
hahahahaha - insulting someone's "stipidity" (I can only assume you mean "stupidity") with a spelling mistake.... That is such a "classic NoPrideJustGarbage" move...
Have the T-shirt
12:20 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
The hypocrisy of two county employees telling other council members not to take bennies is laughable and will only cost them politically in the long run. Very foolish move. Now if they want to talk about giving up something, why not have Ed talk about giveing up all those NJ pension credits accrued from part time work over the past two decades as a council member and as part time attorney for town land use boards? You want to find a big long term taxpayer saver Republican? Kill the part timers' pensons. All over the state. Go for it!
Ron Reese
4:21 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Low and Behold the Parisites come out of the wood work hows that for a narrative?
truthhurts
9:01 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Am I the only one who finds Trawinski to be the biggest pig here? He is the biggest earner of the bunch, he is swimming in pension credits and he has great health benefits from his patronage job (all paid for by our tax dollars). But that isn't enough! He wants it all. He has to ice his cake with the prescription drug benefits that make his deal a little sweeter.
And if that isn't sickening enough, this all comes after months of his puppets repeatedly lying over and over again on this site stating how he accepts "NO BENEFITS" from his council position.
If you repeat a lie enough times, people will believe it. But I guess it's OK to repeat a lie like this as long as you are willing to apologize for your mistake when you get exposed. Man politicians stink!
Tony Sina
11:15 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
th - According to the chart, Mr Trawinski has accepted some form of stipend/benefits for two years longer than Mrs. Swain, but Mrs. Swain's total is still double. Mr. Peluso's projected stipend/benefits for 2012 will cost FL more than double Mr. Trawinski's for the same year. It would appear that every member of the council has the option to decline benefits from the borough, and three accept FL benefits anyway, but only one has made it clear that he would be willing to no longer do so.
Imho, I think the question we should be asking isn't how dare he/she/them, but rather should FL be responsible for their benefits.
TomFoolery
10:02 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
Her Majesty Swain says " It costs money to sit in this seat"...Well princess, nobody is making you do it! Further, did you ever consider the true meaning of community involvement? How much do you think it costs Firefighters, Rescue Personnel or Ambulance members?!? Not to mention the untolled amount of time training and the unplanned emergency calls resulting in loss of time with families and or events. Lastly, the worst you may endure is the barbed tongue of an unruly resident or a papercut shuffling resolutions....The aforementioned stand to be injured, stricken with illness or God forbide a loss of limb or even life!!! So save the B.S.
Tony Sina
11:02 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
General question for my own edification - Are the council members considered full-time or part-time employees of Fair Lawn?
I understand (within reason) the point of a stipend, should the elected council member have a need for it. I hate to agree with Ed Rooney on this (purely because he never relayed his self-admitted "other ways" for having an affair with Mrs. Swain), but should fulfilling the duties of a member of FL council be a financial hardship, it makes sense to provide them with the funds needed to do so.
As far as providing insurance and benefits, etc. I don't believe I've ever heard of a part-time employee of a company receiving the same benefits as a full-time employee. Furthermore, I would think eliminating benefits at this level would be a no-brainer should your logic be that cuts in our budget should come from the top first.
Food for thought - If you assume the council members who took benefits also took the annual stipend (not sure if they did or did not, hence my assumption), and you deduct the annual stipend from those numbers, the benefits on this chart still cost FL over $190k. If anyone thinks that is a negligible amount, feel free to lend it to me sometime!
Stuart Pace
11:03 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
elected officials should receive no benefits nor a stipend. If you want a job, get one. All these accusations and all the other noise from this council disguises the fact that nothing is getting done. I urge all the council members to lose the bennies, stop cancelling meetings and get something accomplished.
es
11:22 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
"elected officials should receive no benefits nor a stipend." Why not ask Sen. Gordon how he'd feel about working for $0?
Tony Sina
11:37 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
Hey Stu - I'm with you on the benefits, particularly in Fair Lawn's case. As far as the stipend, $2,500 a year translates to a little over 48 bucks a week (before any taxes). Should a council member have a need for this in order to fulfill the duties of their elected positions, I don't see the harm.
Also, I don't know that the council cancelling this past meeting due to at least two very justifiable circumstances warrants a call to "stop cancelling meetings". All due respect, it's not like this happens every other time or something.
BellairBerdan
1:29 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
You want to argue back and forth over basically one person who is only employed part time taking benefits, putting a personal decision to a public poll, but no one questions why in a group insurance situation it costs nearly $11K per year per person just for a prescription drug benefit?
Tony Sina
4:32 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
One person who has cost us over $130k in the time accounted for in the chart? Yes. We should argue that, but this one person isn't the sole issue...there are three names with dollar amounts beside them. If council members are considered part-time, why are they being offered benefits? A stipend to offset any hardship endured in the course of council business, fine. I'm not sure that FL should shoulder the cost for this, Beebs.
CrystalClear
1:58 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
Don't cloud the issue with your deflections Bumblin Bellair! Swain's hand is in the cookie jar in this one and she can't get it out cause her fist is clenched
BellairBerdan
2:44 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
If you'd like to use that analogy we can also say Trawinski's big fat $190K fist is able to squeeze its way into that cookie jar and grab himself some cookies too, even after we've all been told for months that he takes nothing. Don't you feel a little bit taken advantage of by that?
Janice
3:25 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
There seems to be a lot of debate on this site about those Council members who are taking the salaries and benefits. However, I would like to thank the members of the council who don’t take either. Mayor Baratta and Deputy Mayor Cosgrove do not take any of the benefits nor the salary. I think this is a great example of them putting the interest of Fair Lawn first above their own. You can say what you want but they could have taken these benefits at an additional cost of almost $60,000 to the town. Taking these benefits while asking borough employees to take furloughs and layoffs is not a sign of good leadership. So kudos to the Mayor and Deputy Mayor Cosgrove for showing leadership and for saving the taxpayers’ hard earned money.
Allen P
3:40 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
hey janice- incase you didnt realize it but the tax payers already pay for barratta's benefits through her county job. stop trying to make her sound like a hero for not accepting the benefits, what is she gonig to do with 2 health benefit packages? if she really wanted to lead by example she would take a pay cut on the inflated six figure salary that us tax payers provide. take a look at how many public employees like trawinski and baratta have 6 figure salaries- thats where all our hard earned money is going.
please though explain to me why baratta would need to take these benefits when we tax payers already provide her with her cadilac healthcare plan
Ron Reese
3:44 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
@ Janice I agree with you 100%! This is not an issue you work you should be paid and the way I see it they gave it to charity! Thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention
Janice
3:50 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
@Allen P. I see that you're not ready to thank Mayor Baratta for not taking her stipend, so am I to assume that you're going to thank Deputy Mayor Cosgrove for not taking the stipend or the benefits?
Allen P
4:18 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
thank you deputy mayor cosgrove- i think it is vey noble of you for not taking the stipend or benefit.
as for the mayor- you not accepting the stipend would mean a lot more to me if i wasnt already contributing to your ridiculously over paid public sector job.
janice- im not suprised you didnt answer my question.... why would baratta except benefits when the taxpayers already provide her with one? what is she going to do with 2?
Janice
4:32 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
Allen, If you ask me, almost everybody in the public sector is overpaid.
mom in fair lawn
5:37 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
these stipends are more money than some people, including myself, make in one year! It's ridiculous!
Allen P
5:55 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
mom in fair lawn- if you dont make $2,500 annually and work fulll time you should probably report your employer because he/she isnt giving you minimal wage
Allen P
5:54 pm on Friday, May 11, 2012
"Allen, If you ask me, almost everybody in the public sector is overpaid."
we definetly agree on that. my only point i was trying to make is when baratta is making $150,000 for basically being donovans assistant and has a great health care plan, its not really a big deal to give up $2500 and not double up on benefits.
Michael Agosta
4:01 am on Saturday, May 12, 2012
Trawinski has been making $175,000 (plus benefits) at his county job since January 2011. Yet, he still used medical benefits on our backs in Fair Lawn.
I don't have a crystal ball but I see this coming up in the primary next year. This is also a great attack point for another party next Nov.
Good job Ed!
Ron Reese
3:26 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
Do you folks read your own dribble they r entitled to the bennifits there fore this is a non issue unless you do not have a life or like to see your own name on the comment line
Poorboy
6:29 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
Mr Reese there in lies the problem!
These are suposed volunteers with a claim to community investment yet, there are some that feel it "Entitles " them ...even dribble in large amounts can result in flooding...they should heed the signs
Ron Reese
6:58 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
Poor boy all should share in sacrifice sound like an Obama campaign add!! Once again they are intitled to it! So it is not an issue! Poor boy grow a pair and lets see who u r that is unless everyone knows you a fool an anonymous is the only way you can get attention I FEAR NO ONE
Ron Reese
7:16 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
No poor boy they are elected officials or did u miss the elelection?? The borough offers a stipen with bennies If u work you should be paid my father raised six kids and fairlawn and I have yet to find a town to meet its quality of life especially those towns where volunteers rain everything
Tommy P
10:01 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
I'd love to see a binding ballot question which asks if they should get benefits or a stipend.
Ron Reese
10:25 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
I'd love to see this liberal rag do a story about a real issue
Marty Cone
10:50 pm on Saturday, May 12, 2012
Ron, go back to sleep
Poorboy
8:49 am on Sunday, May 13, 2012
REESE, elected does not equal employed!
I didn't advocate share in sacrifices., I demand that the likes of Swain stop whining about entitlments and leave her post. How dare she complain while furloighed employees struggle and residents are burdened with rising taxes!
Poorboy
9:50 am on Sunday, May 13, 2012
BTW., Reese, whats with the " I FEAR NO ONE" ?
This isn't WWF..no one threatened anyone here, its a discussion blog...talk about gettin a life ...sheesh....
Ron Reese
2:00 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
Yes poor boy happy moms day everyone knows cowards hind behind alias's now pull up you skirt
Ron Reese
2:33 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
And again the job offers stipends no one has to take them but it's offered and there's for the taking should they desire. You would argue to save peanuts when the beef is in the library! How much salary is there in that entity? Is it justified? Would it better better spent somewhere else? When democrats have the majority this stipend issue would never come up! I liken it to the buffet tax the our campaigner and chief has wore out it would make no difference in the deficity! No difference in our lives but because of the bias in the press it is made to sound like it matters! TELL A LIE BIG ENOUGH AND OFTEN ENOUGH AND THE MASSES WILL BEGIN TO BELIEVE IT !! Now who said that? I am sorry I offended you! Im sick of the entire show ! Good people leave politics so the career politician can thrive! I do wish u and all whi u hold dear a wonderful mothers day! WWF OUT
Poorboy
2:38 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
Ill agree with your last post ..the library is a money pit
Ron Reese
3:29 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
I have made fools of those who can spell those who have been educated in Yale and Harvard spelling grammar eduacation does not mean knowledge but I laugh at my short commings with u ! I knew we would agree on that I have compared everywhere I lived library to the fair lawn library the all for short in one regard the amount spent on them! I have lived in towns with the same or less entire yearly budget as the fairlawn library but in salary some towns have less but provide more! That it true genius
Tony Sina
5:06 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
RON REESE! SUNDAY, MAY 27TH AT THE STAPLES CENTER IN L.A.! I'M COMING FOR YOU AND THAT INTERCONTINENTAL BELT!!! IT WILL BE MINE RON REESE! TEXAS DEATH MATCH! LOSER LEAVES TOWN! THE BELT WILL BE MIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!
Ron Reese
5:27 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
I surender the belt willingly I will save all my energy for defeating Obama !!! And the democrati controlled congress by the way has anyone seen John Corzine did they ever find the money??? That right he is a liberal poster boy he gets to keep it wher u and I would be in jail!!
Ron Reese
5:29 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
And tony if that's your real photo u need to be outside this beautiful day
Tony Sina
5:36 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
Unfortunately, this is an actual photo of me. I would love to go outside, but the mere thought of sunlight causes my skin to blister out and third-degree burns to erupt everywhere. I appreciate your concern.
As for Jonny C...as a former employee of the 200-year-old MF Global - a company he managed to destroy in about eighteen months - I'm disgusted, I'm out of work, I'm out thousands because the company did not honor the retirement vestments and stock purchase program refunds they committed to when we were let go, and I'm out of patience with every minute that goes by that someone is not IN JAIL for the garbage that got pulled there!
Hope you don't mind me ranting, Double R...I know that's your bag.
Ron Reese
6:59 pm on Sunday, May 13, 2012
I'm sorry tony I hope you take vitamin d supplements and in the shade is still healthy I meant know harm and you realize corzine was nearly a cabinet member?? OMG Obama is right there is class war going in the ruling class against the working class all the failures on wall street where recruited into the Presidents administration so they could finish us off ! In the name of fairness and shared sacrifice!!! My father raised 6 kids all pay taxes most of us pay more in taxes than he retired making and low and behold!!!! IT'S NOT ENOUGH WHAT A SURPRISE!!
mushroom
12:32 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Most people whether in the private sector or employed by the government don't have their medical benefits paid completely, and part timers almost never qualify for any benefit. Why should a politician be any different, especially part timers? I guess the fact that they make the rules helps, whether they grant it themselves or it is "grandfathered "in. Sure must be nice to make your own rules.