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Engineers Reach Agreement on Crosswalk Sightlines

Engineers for both the developer and planning board met on July 25 to confirm the sight distances from a proposed crosswalk on Ramsey Terrace.

To ensure that both the Landmark engineer and the engineer were on the same page regarding the controversial  preceding a proposed crosswalk on Ramsey Terrace, the two met on July 25 to mutually confirm the distance.

"Both of our individual experiences there and observations were confirmed when we met together," said Landmark engineer Eric Keller, who testified in June that the sight distance for Plaza Road drivers approaching the proposed crosswalk would meet code if a patch of obstructive underbrush in the borough's right of way were removed.

Although the obstructing trees have yet to be cut back, Planning Board secretary Cathy Hochkeppel said borough workers would eliminate the branches and underbrush within the next week.

In addition to examining the effect of removing the overgrown foliage, Keller also determined that narrowing the roadway at Ramsey by bringing in the curbline some six-to-eight feet would improve the sight distance by approximately 30 feet and also serve as a traffic calming device.

Keller additionally suggested the possibility of striping Plaza Road with yellow paint to create a shoulder and guide motorists to where they should be traveling on the road. Planning Board engineer Jeff Morris said he was fine with the striping.

"The problem with the road right now is it’s so wide people aren’t really forming the typical lane on either side, they’re all over the place," he said. "Try to channelize and make it one lane."

If Landmark moves forward with narrowing the roadway, they would be responsible for paying to do so, Keller said.

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Walter Weglein August 14, 2012 at 06:17 PM
"In addition to examining the effect of removing the overgrown foliage, Keller also determined that narrowing the roadway at Ramsey by bringing in the curbline some six-to-eight feet would improve the sight distance by approximately 30 feet and also serve as a traffic calming device. "Keller additionally suggested the possibility of striping Plaza Road with yellow paint to create a shoulder and guide motorists to where they should be traveling on the road. Planning Board engineer Jeff Morris said he was fine with the striping." I think Keller meant "narrowing the roadway" would be done by yellow striping...so there is really no "additionally": it's the same thing...that's his way of "bringing in the curbline" ...if I'm wrong I'd like to know what else could have been meant...
GerryTol August 14, 2012 at 07:20 PM
If you read the article Wally, the phrase " bringing the curbline in some six to eight feet " clearly infers construction not paint.
Pat Idone August 15, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Oh sure, we must absolutely cut down more trees in Fair Lawn to accomodate what will surely be a trouble spot for years to come! This project should never have gotten off the ground. Shame on you, planning board, fire marshall et all. As usual, the community will can never overcome monied interests.
Have the T-shirt August 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM
In all fairness it is not the officials, their hands are limited by state law. It's not a matter of "the community" - nothing can ever overcome monied interests. It's the oldest golden rule on the planet: Them that have the gold make the rules.
Kathy Moore August 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM
I do believe they are going to physically narrow the road through construction, which will "calm" traffic which I interpret to mean more cars sitting it traffic up and down Plaza Rd. The project will surely mean the end to the center of town as people know it in more ways than one. The real shame is on the Radburn Association who sold this property without consulting it's dues payers to a developer. Please put the blame where it belongs, the planning board is stuck with a court order thanks to the RA.
Jules Vernon August 15, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Does this mean we are finally taking the first steps to developing the parcels of unused land at Plaza Road and Rt 208? Hope so as it's time to bring some new blood into Radburn.
Walter Weglein August 15, 2012 at 05:39 PM
thanks Kathy, I think you may be right about the curbing....
Julia Enerson August 15, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Radburn residents do not pay dues or anything that would be considered "membership" payments.. You know that and yet you keep on saying it. We pay an assessment. And that court order - it came because Fair Lawn did not meet its fair housing requirement under COAH. Please do remember that fine legal difference.
Deleted because of harassment August 16, 2012 at 02:18 AM
According to my notes, the proposed narrowing of the road included moving the curb and curbline between 6 and 8 feet to extend the intersection of Ramsey further out into Plaza, and to paint striping to visually narrow the road up to the intersection of Fair Lawn Ave. on the north side of Plaza. The specifically excluded adding a turn lane into the development from northbound Plaza, meaning anyone making an entrance from there will obstruct the traffic further once the road is narrowed. Didn't this stretch of Plaze just get WIDENED in the past ten years to help improve the flow of traffic at the Fair Lawn Ave intersection?
Deleted because of harassment August 16, 2012 at 02:22 AM
Radburn owners pay an assessment that includes membership in the amenities including the Grange, pools and parks and the Citizen's Association which only admits assessment-paying residents. Spilt hairs all you want but an assessment or a membership are functionally the same, even if they deny self-governance as an extra special bonus.
Tommy P August 18, 2012 at 03:58 PM
That turn lane will be built in the first 5 years, expect a traffic light too.

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